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Looking For New Ideas On Gas Prices? Avoid The Senate Thursday, May 08, 2008
CBS News -- (The Politico) While gas hits $4 a gallon at gas pumps across the country, senators from both parties are reverting to talking points that haven't changed in years. It was clearly gas price rhetoric day in the Senate, and Republicans took the first shot, proposing drilling in Alaska, building more refineries, drilling off the coasts and turning coal to liquid fuel. "We have a bill that's all production," said Sen. Pete V. Domenici (R-N.M.), who engineered $14 billion in tax breaks for energy companies the last time Congress passed a major energy bill in 2005. These were all well worn ideas that have fallen short in previous energy debates. Democrats quickly fired back, and to no one's surprise, they attacked OPEC, "greedy oil traders" and the amorphous bogeyman known as "Big Oil."
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	Thursday, May 08, 2008 CBS News -- (The Politico) While gas hits $4 a gallon at gas pumps across the country, senators from both parties are reverting to talking points that haven't changed in years. It was clearly gas price rhetoric day in the Senate, and Republicans took the first shot, proposing drilling in Alaska, building more refineries, drilling off the coasts and turning coal to liquid fuel. "We have a bill that's all production," said Sen. Pete V. Domenici (R-N.M.), who engineered $14 billion in tax breaks for energy companies the last time Congress passed a major energy bill in 2005. These were all well worn ideas that have fallen short in previous energy debates. Democrats quickly fired back, and to no one's surprise, they attacked OPEC, "greedy oil traders" and the amorphous bogeyman known as "Big Oil." Visit CBS News for full article

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Gas_Buzzer Champion Author South Carolina Posts:5,396 Points:918,490 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 5/10/2008 6:01:40 AM	Ignore Gas_Buzzer Report Abuse
	We wish
nojsts Champion Author St. Louis Posts:10,277 Points:2,082,280 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 8:59:23 AM	Ignore nojsts Report Abuse
	Election year garbage. Out they all go in November.
dubyadee Rookie Author Twin Cities Posts:2 Points:265 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 8:12:12 AM	Ignore dubyadee Report Abuse
	I haven't seen any discussion on totally controlling the oil supply, production, refining or distribution of oil products in the US. What's wrong with nationalizing the oil industry. Venezuela's president had the right idea but the wrong application assuming control of oil in his country. Getting a hand on the costs would greatly benefit consumers and businesses that must rely on oil for their livelyhood. Carter, with his total deregulation policy, ruined many companies with the thought of lower prices. Instead he brought chaos and disruption. Perhaps a return to regulation is now in order
EnderNY Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,258 Points:243,605 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 8:08:47 AM	Ignore EnderNY Report Abuse
	again reaping what we sowed.
aalix Champion Author Orange County Posts:13,629 Points:2,352,295 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 8:06:10 AM	Ignore aalix Report Abuse
	So we continue to have our lawmakers in a deadlock, which results in nothing happening. Time to replace them.
jimmc2990 Rookie Author Boston Posts:27 Points:5,420 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 8:05:53 AM	Ignore jimmc2990 Report Abuse
	Briank299 hits the nail on the head. We need to become semi-protectionist at the expense of the world economy. Why should we enrich their coffers? What do they do for us other than provide cheap crap? Why should the common man also pay through the nose so some stiff in NY or London makes billions off of speculation? This is a true screwing of the U.S. economy by 'speculators' - whomever they are, and government can put an end to that with price controls. I am a capitalist, but there are times it needs to be put in check, and this is one of those times. The WalMart effect is also right and catching up to us - it's all about demand and supply and as long as China is expanding dramatically, then they will exacerbate this problem immeasurably. How to change that? STOP GOING TO WALMART! It's pretty simple. But then again, where do you go to get cheap clothes for your kids and cheap food? Now that gas is eating into our pockets ever more, it's even harder to avoid WalMart and Target. They've put all the other stores out of business, and they've created their own black hole and its sucking billions out of our economy. We're really screwed unless we get some serious intervention from people who actually give a crap. Clearly no one does except us. I think it's time for the common man and woman in this country to actually pay attention and participate for the first time in their lives in our government, because it's going to really mess with their world if they don't.
Kolinaa Rookie Author Michigan Posts:96 Points:19,975 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:59:34 AM	Ignore Kolinaa Report Abuse
	We elected these idiots now when are they going to start doing something besides talk.
boniface4jesus Rookie Author Gary Posts:30 Points:8,325 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:55:45 AM	Ignore boniface4jesus Report Abuse
	It's nice that they apparently talk about other sources for oil and fuel, for years, but when will action be done.
mailman79 Sophomore Author Atlanta Posts:162 Points:223,815 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:55:37 AM	Ignore mailman79 Report Abuse
	politicians can't do anything right REPLACE THEM ALL
sailormon Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:169 Points:104,980 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:54:44 AM	Ignore sailormon Report Abuse
	Who elected these idiots?!! Oh...it was us.
RC_RACER Veteran Author Tacoma Posts:311 Points:102,250 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:54:22 AM	Ignore RC_RACER Report Abuse
	talk? time for talk has passed, now is the time for action. I expect things to get more expensive, I would just like to see it happen at a more reasonable rate. One that could be absorbed without killing the average american.
esquared All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:684 Points:487,200 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:53:43 AM	Ignore esquared Report Abuse
	Follow the money: find out whom Big Oil is backing in the congressional and presidential sweepstakes, and you'll know the reason for legislative and executive gridlock. Me? I'm supporting any candidate who declines contributions from oil PACs and executives -- and that ain't Hillary!
NissanGirl Rookie Author Oregon Posts:83 Points:52,735 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:49:31 AM	Ignore NissanGirl Report Abuse
	How about a little less talk, and a lot more action?
LukeIN All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:839 Points:153,685 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:49:05 AM	Ignore LukeIN Report Abuse
	The republician machine and Chenny, with Bush as front man have done nothing but create this problem and all in the name of greed!
akrebecca Rookie Author Alaska Posts:46 Points:11,350 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:46:03 AM	Ignore akrebecca Report Abuse
	I was going to post a thoughful comment regarding the lack of new ideas from the government. However, I just heard the tagline on the AM news-"Does filling up the gastank increase stress?" Um, YES!
courier400 Champion Author Kansas Posts:5,853 Points:1,405,375 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:43:01 AM	Ignore courier400 Report Abuse
	Its time for them to do something or get out!
nd73 Rookie Author Grand Rapids Posts:43 Points:141,735 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:42:33 AM	Ignore nd73 Report Abuse
	Congress will not act until the people rise up and kick them in the butt!! Let's inundate those over-paid lazy idiots with letters insisting they remove the barriers to drilling for American resources - ANWR and off-shore.
Chitowner Veteran Author Omaha Posts:321 Points:97,800 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:42:18 AM	Ignore Chitowner Report Abuse
	Drill Alaska and get on with it
Aserdaten Veteran Author Florida Posts:341 Points:519,160 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:38:48 AM	Ignore Aserdaten Report Abuse
	What a sad effort from the Legislative Branch of this great country. Is it any wonder that this present Congress is gaining a reputation of being one of the worst in memory?
LRR Rookie Author Dayton Posts:31 Points:38,040 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:37:44 AM	Ignore LRR Report Abuse
	Looks like CyanSquirrel is ready to run for public office!
LRR Rookie Author Dayton Posts:31 Points:38,040 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:36:39 AM	Ignore LRR Report Abuse
	Morons with a lot of school. How educated are you IzOfSilver? Are you going to run for public office?
Gerund1 Veteran Author Toronto Posts:407 Points:736,565 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:36:11 AM	Ignore Gerund1 Report Abuse
	I think I can second IzOfSilver's motion.
CyanSquirrel Veteran Author Virginia Posts:257 Points:47,605 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:36:04 AM	Ignore CyanSquirrel Report Abuse
	Yup. Those stale old whitebreads just can't knock off enough of the crust that encases them to think innovatively and outside the (campaign donations/lobbying) cashbox. Retire already and let us young'uns fix what you refuse to act on.
IzOfSilver Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,462 Points:756,645 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:35:06 AM	Ignore IzOfSilver Report Abuse
	The problem with politicians is they're largely former lawyers and have no business sense. They're morons, pure and simple, interested only in power and getting re-elected, they could care less about the common man....
woos777 All-Star Author Washington Posts:662 Points:482,205 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:34:22 AM	Ignore woos777 Report Abuse
	What to do, what to do? Who to believe, who to trust? George?
Dancin All-Star Author Toronto Posts:746 Points:1,033,575 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:33:02 AM	Ignore Dancin Report Abuse
	Perhaps we have been consuming a resource that has been historically undervalued. How do the Indians and Chinese manage to pay world prices for oil ?
Brockvillian Rookie Author Ontario Posts:30 Points:196,250 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:32:39 AM	Ignore Brockvillian Report Abuse
	So even if they start drilling in Alaska. Does anyone honestly think the price of Fuel is really going to fall. Really! Fuel price will only go up even if there is more oil available.
ESHI Rookie Author Maine Posts:80 Points:500,475 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:31:30 AM	Ignore ESHI Report Abuse
	Change the title of the story Avoid the Senate
patchdogMI Rookie Author Michigan Posts:43 Points:1,100 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:30:27 AM	Ignore patchdogMI Report Abuse
	Where's my kickback? Been with automotive for years with product development. Where's my kickback? Yeah, lets talk about electric. How much coal and oil does it take to recharge a lead-acid batterey? Where's my kickback?
clpete14 Champion Author Indiana Posts:10,849 Points:843,475 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:26:32 AM	Ignore clpete14 Report Abuse
	Unfortunately, the long-standing, underlying problem behind the stinkin' high gas prices involves THE OIL COMPANIES, THE U.S. AUTO MAKERS, and MANY FORMER AND PRESENT POLITICIANS. The Oil Companies have been 'paying off' The U.S. Auto Makers to keep their vehicles in the higher range on gas consumption, and they have been 'paying off' politicians for many decades to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to their unscrupulous practices or we would have and could have had far more fuel-efficient vehicles a long time ago. Off The Soap Box Now !!!
w4kh Champion Author Riverside Posts:3,105 Points:534,115 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:18:18 AM	Ignore w4kh Report Abuse
	How is "Big Oil" amorphous? Exxon-Mobil, Shell, BP, Valero, Chevron They have names, and OH BOY! Do they have profits! Give incentives for engine makers to make more efficient engines (internal cumbustion engines are no better than 30% efficient) and build lighter more aerodynamic cars... and vehicles that burn alternative fuels, preferrably renewable sources. Wean us away from gasoline and petroleum... or it will only get worse... much worse
McNasties Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:3,430 Points:670,350 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:15:28 AM	Ignore McNasties Report Abuse
	The Senate, the House, and Hollywood... are there anyone that ISN'T a DUAL CITIZEN of America and a middle eastern or European country? ***Their loyalities to uphold and defend the American Consitution is very questionable when they are dual citizens.*** Dual citizens should be barred from all pubic offices, including dog catcher.
kingdick Champion Author Minnesota Posts:16,399 Points:1,338,970 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:14:51 AM	Ignore kingdick Report Abuse
	Again :>(( ----------------------------------- There are areas on the north slope that are open for lease outside of ANWR that no one is drilling, use those areas. ----------------------------------- Jeb Bush's request to the Fed's extended the block on drilling on the offshore shelf around Florida, too close to home. More power than the environmentalist have. ----------------------------------- He is Not Democratic
kingdick Champion Author Minnesota Posts:16,399 Points:1,338,970 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:12:24 AM	Ignore kingdick Report Abuse
	----------------------------------- Because of Republican policies- ----------------------------------- Inflation-Adjusted mid point Wages are 1/3rd what they were in 1980. The Rich Republicans at the top are 1-2000 times richer at the expense of the middle class and poor. ----------------------------------- They do not need bush's tax cut, they just hire illegal aliens and cut the wages for the middle class. -----------------------------------
Japsmith All-Star Author Tacoma Posts:702 Points:146,590 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:11:55 AM	Ignore Japsmith Report Abuse
	They need to stop debating and start doing something to alleviate the burden of high fuel prices. And soon.
kingdick Champion Author Minnesota Posts:16,399 Points:1,338,970 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:07:55 AM	Ignore kingdick Report Abuse
	----------------------------------- In the many years before 2006 the Republicans control of our government did not foster increasing the supply of oil. They also deregulated the markets which has allowed the Speculators freedom to RAISE the price of Crude with no regard to supply and demand. Another bad thing that happened on their watch is all the Control of fuel to very few companies, no competition. -----------------------------------
8ballnd Rookie Author North Dakota Posts:42 Points:5,635 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:02:32 AM	Ignore 8ballnd Report Abuse
	why is our white house not out jaw boning the arabs. They dont want to because the oil men in the white house are laughing all the way to the bank.
Chazzer Champion Author Nevada Posts:7,170 Points:1,550,960 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 7:01:08 AM	Ignore Chazzer Report Abuse
	That's a definite given!
stevewwvu Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,186 Points:203,765 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:59:22 AM	Ignore stevewwvu Report Abuse
	we have plenty of oil and the speculators know this but they keep raising the price its going to get to the point that we have to make a choice weather eat or buy gas then people will start to kill for it theres no reason for this there needs to be regulations until then we will see a hugh oil shock it will cripple alot of people in this country and the world and there is no reason for it
rjoeh All-Star Author Michigan Posts:534 Points:891,360 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:58:58 AM	Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse
	Good comment... most politicians probably have the oil companies filling there pockets while they are emptying ours.
kanmandoo Veteran Author Detroit Posts:425 Points:732,070 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:57:00 AM	Ignore kanmandoo Report Abuse
	All they want to do is fight with each other.
kadiehl Rookie Author Allentown Posts:6 Points:70,720 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:56:35 AM	Ignore kadiehl Report Abuse
	Drilling (done right) does not destroy "pristine Arctic wilderness."
tobasco Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,374 Points:692,120 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:56:05 AM	Ignore tobasco Report Abuse
	The answer is lift restrictions on refineries and drilling. Remember there is no shortage of oil, just of processing. I don't see any lines an the gas stations I drive past every day.
priceit Champion Author Portland Posts:7,406 Points:1,400,745 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:54:36 AM	Ignore priceit Report Abuse
	"Well you know what, atleast they always make that 3 cent profit by raising their price everyday. I can't raise my paycheck to keep my saving up. So I am don't want to hear about how bad gas stations have it. They always make a profit, no matter how small they claim it is." If it is so profitable, and the profit comes so easily, why haven't you bought one. There are hunderds for sale.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:6,150 Points:530,185 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:53:24 AM	Ignore tomok Report Abuse
	Why does it take the consumers voice before congress, senate or the president does anything - if anything has been done anyway? Produce alternative fuels in this country using NON FOOD sources. Limit the import of OPEC oil and maybe someday we can tell them 'we don't want your stinking oil'........
CruisinLinda Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,779 Points:778,375 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:52:19 AM	Ignore CruisinLinda Report Abuse
	More domestic production isn't going to lower price because it is sold on the international commodities market at the high bid. Calls for drilling are only thoughtless calls to make more holes and put more tar on beaches and pristine Arctic wilderness.
RochBear All-Star Author Minnesota Posts:863 Points:345,010 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:50:25 AM	Ignore RochBear Report Abuse
	The answer is NON OIL solutions. We need to develope Hydrogen, Electric cars, Hybreds (fueled with plug ins, and/or diesel / hydrogen fuel cells) This country needs to set up more wind farms, and build more hydro - electric dams. We also should recyle spent nuke fuel rods, by grinding them up and treating them like raw Uranium. (currently that is against the law (thanks to Dems like Jimmy Carter) If we re-used spent fuel, we would have enough uranium for the next 100 years, and not have to mine a single ounce of uranium. It would also take care of what to do with the spent rods. Seems like a WIN WIN WIN situation (those are hard to find) Gov't can either Lead or get out of the way. But we certainly don't want to follow the current set of senators. Vote in Nov. And vote against the incumbant. We need a major shake up in Washington. Too bad none of the people running for president are worth a vote. But some are definately worth voting against!
doulosx Veteran Author Columbus Posts:475 Points:345,775 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:50:19 AM	Ignore doulosx Report Abuse
	We pay for the gas and car payments for these liberal leeches and this is how they thank us. The conservatives have been trying to allow our oil companies to drill for our own oil and these disgusting, power mad liberal politicians keep saying no. All of you that keep these scum in office have no one but yourselves to blame for high gas prices. You've been suckered and won't admit it.
gasman50 All-Star Author Portland Posts:557 Points:642,530 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:47:49 AM	Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse
	WE need to open all US costal areas to drilling
trzeciak Rookie Author Dayton Posts:79 Points:34,995 Joined:Aug 2002	Message Posted: 5/9/2008 6:47:27 AM	Ignore trzeciak Report Abuse
	gas

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